Gaffer or anyone else

As you know we have a thread thats been running over three years on Places under Downall Geeners 3, sorry but I would like to ask for your help on something we are stuck with

Dougie, Jack Adamson (killed by the bomb and there is a Wigan Observer article in the History Shop) was the son of Wm and Jane Ann and their other son Wm was married to Nellie. It was lovely to see their photograph. My grandad Robert Adamson was uncle to Nellie's William.

Can you do anything with this it's from a new poster to the site ?
The Anne Adamson's family I am trying to trace was born in 1863 and married to Stephen Walsh the MP for Ince who did live in DG until they moved to Swinley Rd. Wigan. His funeral was in DG.

1891 census - household transcription
Person: WALSH, Stephen
Address: Leyland Green Road, Ashton, Downall Green
________________________________________
WALSH, Stephen Head Married M 30 1861 Colliery Check Weighman Liverpool
Lancashire
WALSH, Anna Wife Married F 28 1863 Ashton-In-Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Ada Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Ashton-In-Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Emma Daughter F 3 1888 Ashton-In-Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Leila Daughter F 1 1890 Ashton-In-Makerfield
Lancashire
________________________________________

Thanks Frances- I said on the Downall Green thread i've a friend on WW that maybe could help if he takes it on,(looks like I.ve two) also told her to look on here for replies to this thread

Pleased to be able to help Dougie

There are two families of Adamsons who have daughters Anne born in 1863 in Ashton - 1. Fathers name Henry - mother Sarah
This family live in Brooks, High, Ashton In Makerfield


2. The other family live in Drummer's Lane, Ashton In Makerfield - Father John - Mother Margaret

1911 census - household transcription

Person: WALSH, Stephen
Address: 8 Swinley Road Wigan
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WALSH, Stephen Head Married
25 years M 51 1860 Trade Union Agent Lancashire Cheshire Miners Liverpool Lancashire
WALSH, Anne Wife Married
25 years F 48 1863 Housewife Ashton in Makerfld Lancashire
WALSH, Ada Daughter Single F 25 1886 Certificated Teacher Elementary School Ashton in Makerfld Lancashire
WALSH, Emma Daughter Single F 23 1888 Domestic Service Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire
WALSH, Arthur Son Single M 13 1898 Student Manchester University Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire
WALSH, Eva Daughter Single F 16 1895 Student Secondary School Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire
WALSH, Hilda Daughter F 14 1897 Student Secondary School Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire
WALSH, Vera Daughter F 12 1899 School Elementary Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire
WALSH, Wilfrid Son M 9 1902 School Elementary Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire
WALSH, Leslie Son M 7 1904 School Elementary Wigan Lancashire
WALSH, Leonard Son M 4 1907 Wigan Lancashire
________________________________________

1901 census - household transcription

Person: WALSH, Anne
Address: 23, Downall Green, Ashton In Makerfield
________________________________________
WALSH, Stephen Head Married M 40 1861 Colliery Check Weighman Above Ground Liverpool Lancashire
WALSH, Anne Wife Married F 38 1863 Ashton in Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Ada Daughter Single F 15 1886 Elementary School Teacher Ashton in Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Emma Daughter Single F 13 1888 Ashton in Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Leila Daughter Single F 11 1890 Ashton in Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Arthur Son Single M 8 1893 Ashton in Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Eva Daughter Single F 6 1895 Ashton in Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Hilda Daughter Single F 4 1897 Ashton in Makerfield
Lancashire
WALSH, Vera Daughter Single F 2 1899 Ashton in Makerfield
Lancashire
________________________________________

If you need anything else looking up - just give a shout, someone will always take a look for you

(b----- H---) Thanks agian Frances- the names Drummer lane and High Brook that you've mentioned was very well know places in the area before all the now house was built, people still relate to them but not as much these days the person asking the question comes from the Wirral so will not know the area like we do

Stephen Walsh

Click on the link - Stephen Walsh.

After seeing this article the correct Anne's parents were John - Mother Margaret - if you would like the census returns let me know,

Thank you so much Frances for all your work. I have been on the census and found info on the 1911 but wanted to know if anyone knew of the family now. Arthur was killed in WW1.
I knew there were 2 Anne Adamsons but would love to know if this Anne A was in our branch of the family.I think its the John and Mgt. link.Intriguing!!
You are right Dougie, I don't know DG at all really. I was brought up in Worsley Mesnes in my grandad Bob Adamson's old house in Poolstock Lane. I'm in contact with Nellie and hope to see her soon.
Thank you very much Frances.

Page 5 of Past Forward Spring 1999 Issue No. 21 - This may be of interest - A photo of Stephen with King George V and Queen Mary.

Stephen Walsh with King George V and Queen Mary"

A nice story of his life - with a lot of information - What a fantastic man.

What a star you are!It is a brilliant article and it would be lovely to find a family member.
I am sure there must be info in Ashton library so will ring them tomorrow. Thanks

acr47

A biography of Stephen Walsh.

What a fantastic article, what a fantastic man, how hard he worked and how much he achieved... amazing.....

acr47, you must be thrilled to have learned all this..you say you are seeing nellie soon, pleased to hear she is still around and please pass on my Best Wishes to her... I am Janet Lomax and I grew up in the first house on Leyland Green Rd and I remember her well...

jouell are you related to roy lomax i think he will be arounf 44 ish not seen him for along time

rbilly I do have a brother Roy, but he is 61, my youngest brother Ste is 52....

jouell, were you Janet Adamson?

If you google Stephen Walsh you can see a video of him and all the members of Ramsey McDonalds gov. Where would we be without google? The article that gaffer sent is on there too. Thank you gaffer!

no acr47, I'm not Janet Adamson....I just lived in the same rd as Bill and Nellie. I lived in the first house at #5, they lived in the 9th house at #21.....

Just like to thank Gaffer and Frances for their replies to my post asking for help

Hi Dougie - It is always nice to be able to help, but to more or less find their life story wow - it is what everyone researching their family tree would wish for but alas...................

Thank you Frances and everyone. It has been brilliant to know there are so many people generous with their time to help. Thanks

Thank you Frances and everyone. It has been brilliant to know there are so many people generous with their time to help. Thanks

Frances, did you notice that Stephen Walsh lived in Leyland Green Rd.?

Hello acr47

Yes he was living there in

1891 census - household transcription
Person: WALSH, Stephen
Address: Leyland Green Road, Ashton, Downall Green

I just wondered did you have any luck at the library

No Frances. They said that the History Shop was the place to go. They do have the current electoral rolls there and I presume they can be referred to if I can get over there sometime.

Hello acr47

Can I ask is there a reason that you asked about Stephen Walsh living in Leyland St?



Where in the country do you live acr47

No reason other than I thought you lived there. I live on the Wirral so will come across to Ashton libary when I can.

Hello Acr47

I hail from Newton-le-Willows although my grandparents lived in Hardybuts Wigan - I don't know Wigan very well at all.

I've just added this to the thread to help new comers to WW, if you wish to keep up with any thread on messageboard just press the END key on the keyboard which will take you to the last posting

Thank you for that. I didn't know how to do it so I expect you have helped a lot of us.